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>> it was more about the individual popularity of the one barack obama plus bill clinton. after all, it was a decisive victory, but it was a victory for the man, not necessarily the party. >> is that how you read it, john? do you see this being an obama victory as opposed to a liberal victory are or they intertwined? >> i never want to disagree too much with one of the greater politicians in american history, but i would suggest that there was a little more party there. you won a couple u.s. senate seats that they weren't supposed to win sometimes because of republican flubs. 1.4 million more people voted for democrats for the house than voted for republicans, only gerrymandering kept the house where it is. and so i think that this man has done a lot to build a broad progressive coalition, but your core question is the important one. can you hold that coalition together? >> mayor -- >> let me say this to you though, i believe that it would have been a more telling benefit for the party if it had been nancy pelosi re-emerging as the speaker of the house and if democrat gove
>> it was more about the individual popularity of the one barack obama plus bill clinton. after all, it was a decisive victory, but it was a victory for the man, not necessarily the party. >> is that how you read it, john? do you see this being an obama victory as opposed to a liberal victory are or they intertwined? >> i never want to disagree too much with one of the greater politicians in american history, but i would suggest that there was a little more party there. you...
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bill clinton got 43% of the vote that year. president bush got 37% of the vote. and even though it is always a bad idea to do math on television, this one isn't that hard. if you add up 43 and 37 you do not get anywhere near 100% of the vote. what happened to the rest of the vote? the wacky thing about the 1992 election in terms of thinking about american binary red versus blue party politics is that another guy who ran that year, a third person, got almost 20% of the vote. it was ross perot, right? giant sucking sound. ross perot got a very large proportion of the vote for a third-party candidate. nearly 20%. and who knows how the votes would have been divided between bill clinton and george h.w. bush had ross perot not been in there that year. but one thing that's often forgotten about the 1992 race was that ross perot was not the only third-party candidate who ran that year. there was a whole slate of other third-party candidates nominated that year who did not make as big a splash as mr. sucking sound did. they did as well as third-party candidates usually do
bill clinton got 43% of the vote that year. president bush got 37% of the vote. and even though it is always a bad idea to do math on television, this one isn't that hard. if you add up 43 and 37 you do not get anywhere near 100% of the vote. what happened to the rest of the vote? the wacky thing about the 1992 election in terms of thinking about american binary red versus blue party politics is that another guy who ran that year, a third person, got almost 20% of the vote. it was ross perot,...
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the richard newstat book about this, about the power of the presidency, it was kind of bill clinton's bible. obama seems to be moving forwards that away from the deal cutting. >> maria theresa, glen is talking long game, but in terms of the short game, the playbook seems to be one that he has used a lot in the last couple of months/year, i'll say, which is vault over congress and take it to the people and make them move however incrementally. the question is do we think is that can happen? can he have that kind of win on gun control 1234. >> he did exactly what he should have done. obama care, he said i'm going to go to washington, i'm going to go to capitol hill and negotiates inside, and people will come with me. what he is saying is he is basically drawing a clear line in the sand. this is where i stand. the american people, i'm going to -- i'm going to speak to you directly, and i'm going to go ahead and volley it over to the senate and they'll pass it. this is not my doing. >> hopefully they'll introduce it to the floor of the senate. that in and of itself will be -- >> i think t
the richard newstat book about this, about the power of the presidency, it was kind of bill clinton's bible. obama seems to be moving forwards that away from the deal cutting. >> maria theresa, glen is talking long game, but in terms of the short game, the playbook seems to be one that he has used a lot in the last couple of months/year, i'll say, which is vault over congress and take it to the people and make them move however incrementally. the question is do we think is that can...
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look at you and bill clinton. we're live from the dubliner in washington for president barack obama's second-term inauguration. we have an amazing crowd. my god, the line outside. it's freezing. i can't believe it. still with us here inside the bar, eugene robinson. joining us now, presidential historian doris kearns goodwin, former adviser to president george w. bush and co-founder of the no labels organization. and the moderator of "meet the press," david gregory. >> what is it about this day? are we suckers for believing that maybe good things lie ahead and vice versa? a republican hoping on this day when a democrat is being sworn in. just maybe -- >> we're not suckers. we're never suckers. you got to believe that there's a time when a new administration starts or a second administration starts they think through what happened in the first one. they want to reach out in a different way than they did before. we want to look differently at them. it's our secular religion. that's what this day is. think of what an
look at you and bill clinton. we're live from the dubliner in washington for president barack obama's second-term inauguration. we have an amazing crowd. my god, the line outside. it's freezing. i can't believe it. still with us here inside the bar, eugene robinson. joining us now, presidential historian doris kearns goodwin, former adviser to president george w. bush and co-founder of the no labels organization. and the moderator of "meet the press," david gregory. >> what is...
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>> i think he'll certainly try and bill clinton talked about that directly, this system in washington which makes things so difficult but one of the most telling things, we heard a couple of minutes ago, all of this talk of the white house there's a lot of paid to doing things by executive order, executive action. not necessarily by legislative acts in congress, exactly what clinton did in 1997 when he realized that the possibility of getting things from capital hill was a little bit more limited than he hoped. >> michael, let's deal with the elephant in the room here. when at some point in the next few years donald trump succeeds in proving that obama's birth certificate's a fraud, how will that affect the ability to govern the country? no, no. i guess what i'm kind of struck by is we're talking about now few days away from the second inauguration, what are the big themes to define the obama term and seems to me maybe more than we have seen in the recent past, this second term really, the basic contours of the second term set in place. it is this fight over what the safety net is, wh
>> i think he'll certainly try and bill clinton talked about that directly, this system in washington which makes things so difficult but one of the most telling things, we heard a couple of minutes ago, all of this talk of the white house there's a lot of paid to doing things by executive order, executive action. not necessarily by legislative acts in congress, exactly what clinton did in 1997 when he realized that the possibility of getting things from capital hill was a little bit more...
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and then monica lewinsky thing just absolutely hobbled bill clinton. >> took over. >> he couldn't do anything the last two years. he was totally focused on protecting himself and defending himself. so i'm not saying that obama will get himself into something like that, but you just don't know what's going to happen. you don't know -- and you don't know how you're going to react. >> james? >> the randomness of political reality is important to keep in mind. two other things to focus on. i think this administration has more political capital than it has accessed because this coalition of voters that put him back in office is really a broad constituency. they've got to speak to those folks to the left of them. very important. the folk on the right, intractable folk in the congress, i don't think -- there is no honeymoon for those guys. they're back at it. he has more political capital to him on the left and needs to access that and meet the needs of the constituencies that put him in office and understand those folk on the right haven't moved off that opposition nal dime. they're going
and then monica lewinsky thing just absolutely hobbled bill clinton. >> took over. >> he couldn't do anything the last two years. he was totally focused on protecting himself and defending himself. so i'm not saying that obama will get himself into something like that, but you just don't know what's going to happen. you don't know -- and you don't know how you're going to react. >> james? >> the randomness of political reality is important to keep in mind. two other...
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clinton's support for gun control measures including the assault weapons ban. other democrats began to say the same thing. well, that gave the nr afar more power than deserved. i didn't believe it was true then and i don't believe. >> west virginia, kentucky, tennessee that's where he was finding his problems, right? >> where republicans win anyway. the people who vote for republicans. in those states are not going to vote for a democrat. it doesn't matter what he does. >> i'm not going to argue except on these points of electoral college votes. it used to be we got arkansas the democratic side. west virginia was consistently -- anyway, the guys on the far right here. fear factor. kentucky senator rand paul wants to run for president is concerned the president has a king complex. and paul is out there vowing to nullify any executive orders that impede on congressional powers which by the way has not happened. we used the word nullification, you're talking civil war here. let's watch. >> in our founding fathers were very concerned about having a separation of pa
clinton's support for gun control measures including the assault weapons ban. other democrats began to say the same thing. well, that gave the nr afar more power than deserved. i didn't believe it was true then and i don't believe. >> west virginia, kentucky, tennessee that's where he was finding his problems, right? >> where republicans win anyway. the people who vote for republicans. in those states are not going to vote for a democrat. it doesn't matter what he does. >> i'm...
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everything he did, clinton about race, the welfare reform bill. people overlook a lot of things troubling. the other piece of this, melissa, this president, everything he did turned out to be about race. this is the first president that had to confront questions about his birthplace, confront witch doctor signs, people saying he was a black hitler. now the butcher of benghazi on the right. the over-the-top reaction to him that most people looked at as having a racial component. when he was elected, the right had two choices. they can react as a typical president or go absolutely insane. they chose the latter. it made african-americans overlook their anxieties about not being addressed. it made african-americans angry. it's why they showed up in large numbers. >> that, plus voter suppression. that was remarkable. you know what? i think there may be an interesting lesson from what you said about bill clinton, which those of us who are progressive have always wanted an alliance among african-americans and lower income whites who, in many cases face t
everything he did, clinton about race, the welfare reform bill. people overlook a lot of things troubling. the other piece of this, melissa, this president, everything he did turned out to be about race. this is the first president that had to confront questions about his birthplace, confront witch doctor signs, people saying he was a black hitler. now the butcher of benghazi on the right. the over-the-top reaction to him that most people looked at as having a racial component. when he was...
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something that bill and hillary clinton failed to do during their presidency. a democratic priority for decades. he got financial regulation, which is new rules for wall street, which are just in the process now are being impleme implemented, as health care is. neither had a full chance to take effect. he did not get his goals on energy and changing the energy foundations of the american economy. he's going to try to do some of that in his second term with regulatory authority, and he did achieve some measure of economic stability and recovery, but there's a way to go. remember, he took office during a financial crisis, losing 700,000 jobs a month. we're growing, but growing slowly. he's got to try to build on that. >> picking up on that right there, it is a rather mixed bag when you look at the answer to the question, are you better off now than you were four years ago? let's go through some of the accomplishments. median income, federal debt, americans on food stamps, all down. worsened. staying on par, unemployment, same as four years ago. the dow nearly dou
something that bill and hillary clinton failed to do during their presidency. a democratic priority for decades. he got financial regulation, which is new rules for wall street, which are just in the process now are being impleme implemented, as health care is. neither had a full chance to take effect. he did not get his goals on energy and changing the energy foundations of the american economy. he's going to try to do some of that in his second term with regulatory authority, and he did...
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>> you know, i was reading bill clinton's second inaugural where he talks about, you know, the status quo nature of government which we see today as well, that americans a americans are to turn this division the government the way it is. the petty bickering they did for big things. i think the president wants to try to talk about where he feels he can have the most impact in his second term domestically and internationally which is a huge piece, by the way. because i think his first term internationally was about coming home, was about sort of pulling america back from its projection of power. there are so many both real problems and crises but also opportunities for the president. so i think that the speech is really about where he wants to have the most impact. and i think that's how he'll be judged, and that's where people will really take notice of what he says. >> david, before you tell us who's on "meet the press" this sunday, back to the speech for just a moment. do you think there's any chance at all that the president will address the innings limitations on stephen strasburg?
>> you know, i was reading bill clinton's second inaugural where he talks about, you know, the status quo nature of government which we see today as well, that americans a americans are to turn this division the government the way it is. the petty bickering they did for big things. i think the president wants to try to talk about where he feels he can have the most impact in his second term domestically and internationally which is a huge piece, by the way. because i think his first term...